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We want to share an exclusive interview that Pastor Steven did with Bishop TD jakes on entrepreneurship and leadership
thank you for joining us we hope you enjoyed this special presentation I
want to read you something and
This was written by Judd Apatow
He was writing about the comedian Albert Brooks
And how he got a chance to work with one of his heroes and just a couple sentences
but he said something that I would love to say about Bishop Jake’s before he comes and
He said in your dreams as a young guy
You imagined your heroes to be one thing and then you get a chance to work with one of them, and he’s actually even better
He said deep down all comedy nerds. Hope that at the end of our lives
We will have made one movie as good and true as Albert Brooks as best movies. I’ll modify that a little bit deep down all
Preachers and leaders. Hope that at the end of our lives. We will have preached one sermon
As good and true as Bishop TD jakes so many
Would you put your hands together elevation church and welcome to the stage?
Bishop TD jakes
I don’t know how we’re supposed to do this, but I want to tell you right off the bat. This is my Steven Furtick
Science fired you you inspired me. Can we call it even now for all of the stuff. I’ve ripped off from you over the years
The only problem is my thighs can’t breathe
If we see you leaning over yeah, I need a he of G for my knees, but I’m good
You can’t dance with these things man, you can’t you just gotta jump up and down, can you soar I can soar in them?
How would you like to hear Bishop TD jakes and Pastor Steven Furtick sing I believe I can fly by r.kelly
Just something you might be interested in
All the millenials are like our what?
Maybe we’ll do that at the end modeless love do you like that song you I like the song
What are some songs that you like to listen to Bishop Jake’s that don’t get played in church. They don’t get played at church
Cut the cameras oh you guys can be seated for hanging out now
They’re so excited. I like Luther Vandross. I like Anita Baker. You know
Like lesser-known, but but extremely talented is Kiko Matsui
Kiko Matsui is a Japanese jazz pianist said it’s absolutely out of this world
And I listened to her this evening before I came over here, so I’d had my international flavor
yeah, so I’d like all kinds of music kind of like classical music I
Like gospel music of course. I like just about every kind of every drug even some country. I’ll go country on you now the
Greatest rock and roll band of all time. Oh god now. I’m in trouble. I don’t go rock the road. Yeah well
It’s funny. I grew up in the Jimi Hendrix error, so you know you know anybody got you Jimmy hippies
Yeah, yeah big poster on the wall my life’s ambition was to have his afro I
Had women’s braiding my hair to my eyeballs were up like this trying to get my hair to where it never happens
I didn’t get here to the jheri curl
That was wrong about the jury yes, sir, I do
I mean not for personal experience. I’ve seen pictures. Do you think pictures ever?
Well when I used to freeze years ago. I wore during curling
I had a towel around my neck and when I got the really pretty
Yeah, and the jheri curl juice with fly across the front and everybody slain in the spirit
Those were the days with the power of God was Warner
Sent the secret a secret you gotta get a girl
I’m in trouble
So excited about this new books or excited to talk to you about it tonight. Thank you. I’ve been reading it
Yeah, it’s kind of weird though. I I had to do my research
to interview you and
so I put in Amazon because the book is subtitled build your vision from the ground up and
focuses on leadership mhm entrepreneurship mm-hmm so I put entrepreneur in Amazon search and
over fifty six thousand results Wow over fifty six thousand results
And then I put in leadership over two hundred and fifty seven thousand results
Amazing which made me wonder
for my first official question of the interview
What was missing from the conversation that made you want to add your voice timing?
What we need depends on where we are in the history of this country
The topography of this country has changed in terms of how we make a living quite a bit from agricultural
we went through that face to industrial age to the
information age that we’re currently in right now and
People have had to retool themselves in order to keep up with trends. They didn’t choose
Now we’re in an era where
People of my generation sent our kids to school because we trained them to think a job
and we said if you go to school you get a good education you’re gonna come out you’re gonna get a great job and that
Was true when I was coming up
But that’s not true today today. You can yeah am I right about it
Today you can go to school you can get a great education and come out with a good bill
Whole lot of debt and end up working at Burger King
nothing against Burger King but
How do we get you here? I have to be careful brother like me get sued on regular
The question then becomes how do we
with our
Education and our disappointment living in our mother’s house sleeping on the couch even cereal at noon
We to ourselves so that we can be functional in the 21st century
Listen at the argument that our country is having right now. It’s it’s hard to listen to
beneath all of the chatter
The red belt states and the inner cities are crying about the same thing
The lack of opportunity, and we’re looking to the white house to
Solve the problem and the reality is that’s not gonna happen
We need solutions
and this goes beyond we’d like to talk in terms of we have nice terms for bus really black and white you know herb and
Then red bell spaces and black so swipes awesome, but now we’re both getting broke
Okay, which is a scary situation and
And you’ve got smart bright gifted talented people who can’t find an opportunity
Also in our community and even in other communities you have this dilemma of people who make mistakes when they were young
did some criminal justice issues and
25 years later, they can’t get a job or a place to stay
That’s a real problem
So rather than to go get a job, I thought it was important to talk about being a job
You know yeah about being a job about hiring yourself about the opportunities that exists to create your own
Reality your own business your own company to be the CEO of you
The CEO you and I think it surprises a lot of people to hear you talk like that
Who are only familiar with you as a preacher right right? I mean
There’s no doubt okay when I when I go to preach for Bishop Jake’s I’ve had the privilege to do it
Three times I think dude I spend as long trying to figure out what I want to say in my introductory remarks
To honor him because of what he’s meant to me as I do on my message, and I never can quite find the words
But the last time I think I was with you. I gave you a nickname. I don’t know if you remember
I call those Lasher
and I called you that because I thought because
No matter what title someone would put with the name TD jakes?
They would have to put a slash after it yes, so you’re a pastor
slash author New York Times bestselling multiple number one
Seven hundred ninety three weeks off
Record label executive
Philanthropist father husband psalm slasher
Probably the first time you’ve ever been called that that got me. That’s me. I investigate
Thank you very much at the heart at the heart of that nickname though is a lot of admiration I wonder
When did you decide not to be limited by?
One title or one function I never knew that
The way people described you would become a prison until they did it
When when I met me I was not a preacher
So I didn’t know that they would incarcerate me with the title
you are at your best when you are authentic to your core and
You have to be what you are not what they call you
Sometimes see you appear to say what I’m saying
Sometimes people will call you a name, and you start living up to the name and it limits you from what else
God wants to do is your life
you know and and by the way I
Create for inventing this but the credit is really misplaced
Because when you think of the Apostle Paul. He was a writer
He was a thinker respected by the thinkers of his age at a time when there were profound
thinkers in Paul’s they known for his ability to be
Intellectually he was a speaker. He was a writer. He was a tentmaker. He was able to influence Aquila and Priscilla
Not because of his preaching, but because of his business. They shared the same business and out of that business
influence and affluence a relationship emergent affected the kingdom
When you look at Jesus who was a carpenter’s son and later they called him a carpenter?
He who handled would end up nailed to a tree
And what happens in life as we evolve as a person
We cannot allow ourselves to be incarcerated by
Anything that people would describe us with because we limit then what the Holy Spirit can do in your life
say, I did let me jump in say this one quick thing I
Think if Jesus had come in our day. He would have been a filmmaker
But because they didn’t have films he told parables
But if you think about it parables our movies made of words if he were to come today. He would have done films
Imagine how that would look like today most of what we call church. We would have to teach Jesus
Jesus never saw an usher he never saw a greeting committee
Jesus never saw a choir Jesus never met a deacon Jesus never had a board
Jesus never had a whole lot of things that we would have to go through and say my Jesus don’t sit over there
that’s the reserved section and
When you get rid of leaflets figures about you know we were
These accrued events that attach itself to religion often block our view from revelation
Yeah and
Because I was I was raised by a dying father
Born in between two dead babies. I really value the preciousness of life
the baby before me died and the baby after me died and my mother clutched to me as
Only a mother can who has lost a child
And and an appreciation for the value of life and a refusal to allow anybody
To take away the great privilege of being alive, I will think for myself
I will move in my own direction. You can say whatever you want to say about it, but I’m gonna be me
You see what I’m saying. Yeah at the core of everything soar is saying don’t be limited
Don’t put a period because you did one thing that you can’t do something else that you can’t be something else that you can
Evolve as an individual that you can’t explore
other idioms of thought
You know let me show up because I get to talk about that’s great. I I want to dig deeper into that because
the arc of your teaching and one of the most influential messages
That I’ve received from you is get out of your comfort zone
I mean if you open your mouth if some version of that’s going to come out maybe from the Old Testament
or it may be from a
Chicken’s egg you know there’s there’s some way that you’re gonna. Tell me get out of your comfort zone mm-hmm
I wondered though because I’ve also heard you teach so much about your capacity mm-hmm that each person has a god-given
For the person who is trying to decide who what can I do I don’t know yet, I haven’t tried yet
I think I know what I have. I don’t know if I have it or not
How do we know the difference between?
Staying in our comfort zone versus going beyond our capacity
You’re only measured in terms of success by his investment in terms of contribution
If he gave one man one towel and another man two talents in another man five talents
He didn’t expect the man with one talent to produce ten
but at least give me to
The man who had two talents came back with four the man with five talents came back with ten
The man with two talents came back with four the man with five came back with ten. Those are the same things. That’s a hundredfold
The man with one came back with nothing
Now the Apostle Paul says that when we compare ourselves with one another and so doing it is not wise
Because we don’t have the same starting place
So if I’m gonna make success predicated on what my neighbor had
That is only fair if I started with what my neighbor started with
Let me ask this
What if I’m not clear about what I started with because I’ve heard you do this thing before – okay the advantage I have interviewing
You because I have a library of things that you’ve said, I don’t think there’s been a sermon or by the way
Yeah, so I am scared to death the upper hand
But you do this thing alright as I saw him do this thing at a preachers conference once and he said I won’t I won’t
Imitate your voice go ahead go ahead
He has this really intense
Mode there’s there’s a wide-open Bishop Jake’s and then there’s a very intense
Very it’s it’s it’s many gears, but it’s equal intensity, and it’s terrifying
It was a it was it was a pretty a pretty big moment and you you say
there’s nothing that I have that you don’t have I
Have one mouth
You have one mouth
two ears
You have two ears and you have the script if he as you went all the way to the toenails
And I’m just being honest Bishop respectfully I was thinking that’s not true
You have this mind and this ability and this voice even as a preacher who admires you so much
There’s a part of me that goes I know the point is that God has given each of us a calling
But I think a lot of us when we hear about the parable of the talents. We don’t know well
Do I have one do I have to do I have five?
I don’t want to get out there and do something stupid that I wasn’t meant to do, but I don’t want to
You really hit on so the first thing I am in touch with myself in a way that a lot of people are not
I’d owe me I dated me
It’s funny but it’s true, I’ve dated me I know me you know when you date somebody use for them to see who they are
Most people are so busy dating other people they’ve never dated themselves
When god says to Adam the very first command God says to Adam is to be fruitful
You can only be fruitful if you are seed full
Okay, so we’re talking about the difference between fruit and seed
Identifying your seed is what causes you to be fruitful
The first revelation of seeds should happen in your family you should have parents who are looking at their kids
looking for seeds
I’m gonna give you my grandbaby story you asked for it. You’re gonna get it. You just own it
So we’re in my church, and it’s dark in my grandbabies in there and a bunch of friends are in there
We’re taking pictures, and I can’t find the light
And I you know the lights are
complicated back to you figure out how to turn I was tough on him and so we’re trying to get some pictures and so my
Grandbaby ran, and she says wait a minute Paul. I’m gonna get a flashlight
she went up under the Pew where we have hidden flashlights snatched down a flashlight and brought it over said I’ll take the pictures and
So I said to her I said, baby
Don’t you want to be kids II don’t you want to be in the picture she said no
I don’t want to be in the picture. I want to hold the light
That’s the seed right there
That’s the see right there, so we came back to the house, and I was getting ready to take a picture
And I’m trying to keep up with you Millennials
You know it’s so hard, and I was trying to take a selfie
and I was trying to I got a timer you know where you can back up because
If you follow me on Instagram you know this is true
And so I couldn’t get my phone to sit up
And she she wouldn’t got some books and pumped it up and I said I told my daughter
I said put her in leadership classes put her in management classes. She’s a problem solver
That starts
Early early her instinct in a situation is to solve the problem. She says I don’t want to be in the picture
I want to hold the light those are seeds, okay
Directing that channel toward an area where you can cultivate what God has planted down inside of them is important
It’s very very important
There are people in this room that have dormant seeds laying inside of them that if they get in the right atmosphere
They’re gonna turn into things you have never seen before
They didn’t always have the benefit of parents who could see it or had time to see it or know how to see it
But even as adults there are still seeds down and you that have not been touched yet. That’s what happened to Elijah
He was fulfilling his parents vision
Plowing in the field every boy was no farmer
Just because you can run a plow that mean you’re a farmer
But sometimes we get stuck in what people expect right?
And we’ve never found out who we are because we’re living somebody else’s dream and so there
He is plowing in the field doing what his daddy wanted going around and said I guess this is our life hands for me
He’s going around and around in circles like many people are listening at me right now
You go to work go to church. Go home. Go to work go to church go home
Go to work go to church go home
You’re playing around around a circle until Elijah passed by him, and then he was exposed to some the moment
He was exposed to something greater. He dropped something lesser
You understand what I’m saying
That’s why
Conversations like this are important because really I’m not throwing seeds. I’m throwing fertilizer
and if it hits the seed it’s going to give birth to
Companies and businesses and books and artistry and drama and all kinds of stuff
That’s in this room that people never have given themselves permission
to burn their plough yeah
That’s what this book is all about Bester
It is about I’m not against people working a job
But we have entrepreneurs in a job and you’re frustrating the company and you
Nobody likes you
Don’t like you. Let me let me ask you this because
Coaster scared or what up you really I think that’s a very treatable moment they don’t like you at Bishop Jake’s
So true they don’t like you touch your neighbor and say they don’t like you
No, I just want to clarify because it seems like entrepreneur is a
Entrepreneur is a trendy title these days hear it more and more mm-hmm. It’s not a weird thing anymore
It’s kind of sexy to post you know on my grind and you
Know what do you think about that bishop because I would imagine that
Generationally I know enough about how you grew up
Maybe maybe people would like to hear a little bit about what it means to you
What’s the essence of entrepreneurship to you your value system?
Versus how you see it being portrayed culturally now especially in a younger generation
Today when people say they’re on the ground they overslept they’re laying on the couch sugary cereal
That’s what it means yeah. That’s what it means today. That is not what it meant in my day, and that is not
What makes people successful I have had I?
Have to be careful about even going down this road. I have been so blessed
To get in the room with some of the most
Incredible people on the planet. I had lunch the other day
with the CEO of AT&T
And we set for hours and hours talking and interacting with each other and became friends last Sunday
I was invited to Oprah’s house as she launched her book and I’ve seen her behind the scenes and seeing how she
Operates who she is in what she does pretty nice place?
Instead of burden my plow when I came home, I started to burn down my house I
Said I said it afire this year so lately
Seen people who were on their grand I’ve seen Steve Harvey’s on his grand I’ve seen people on the grand
What on the ground really is is a work ethic that would blow your mind?
It would blow your mind. I’m 60 years old, and I’m everybody who works for me is younger than me
And they’ll tell you I worked you up under the table. I worked you up under than baby. Where does that come from my father?
My father absolutely my father is Rick. My let me take this chair is about to break
My father sitting here my mother is sitting here
and they’re fighting for the mic from moment to moment my grandmother talks to you every now and then all of my
Ancestors are sitting on this table all the way back to Nigeria
One that my ancestors were Evo’s
from Nigeria and
Evo’s are called black Jews that they’re industrious said they go after things that they’re
Hardworking people so all the way back in my DNA
We were chefs efficient
Mm-hmm and all of them are sitting here folks whose name. I can’t even call so what we’re talking about is culture
Okay, and now not racial culture family culture
Where we’re the demonstration of what my father decided what Grandin was?
You weren’t grinded your daddy said you were granted. Not you
Take your hands out your pocket more like you gotta me about what the fuck they trained us
not to be lazy, they talked about lazy like it was a disease I
Mean like the worst thing you could be it was so worth it. You could be you know
And two things to this day, I should say that in church church
I could say this about you, so I was said in your church, and I’m gonna let you figure out almost now you get
To things like to the stack came out stand is a stinking woman another lazy, man
Like that
said agree with their big eye
Sister got to take a bath praise God. I said – gotcha she got the Proust of water here, then I talked about baptism
I’ll give a brother a pass on the smelling good if he works hard but
Don’t tell me you’re on the ground, and you’re and you’re not really on the grind
Here’s the problem the Bible said Benjamin
Jacob was dying laying in the bed talked about fathers to son he’s laying in the bed
He’s dying, and he set up the Bible said Israel strengthened himself
Notice that Israel strengthened himself set up in the bed and he said Benjamin
Shove Ravin as a wolf
In the morning he should have fire the prey and in the evening he should divide the spoils
Notice the time caught there. Yeah in the morning you desire the prey while you’re young
That’s the
Thing I was talking about you see that
Imagine what he has a steak knife crash?
One lady jumped back three rows to sit
In the morning I see a lady really sheared right here
My mother was a schoolteacher. She was dramatic in the morning used to devoured the prey
In the evening you should divide the spoils if you don’t devour when you’re young
You’ll have nothing to divide when you’re old she ran away
Am scared to death the people who are young and said I just can’t figure it out
Haven’t made up my mind yet. I tried that I didn’t like I
Don’t know
I think you better Harry, right?
Right you better shoot something right now right because youth goes quick right. I mean like it goes like a runaway slave
Youth is about the ground railroad with here at Dublin. He gets away, okay, so these are things I would not
The white birds liabilities urban with
In the morning here me people in the morning
devour something
Throw your whole self at something
You’ll never know what you can do and what you can be into you throw your whole self at it
Devour it. I mean the very don’t try it devour it. It’s a kit
Not a kit like you’re gonna kill
It devour the prey and in the evening you divide the spoils we have it backwards today
We want to divide the spoils in the morning
So we’re blinging when we ought to be devouring
See see see see don’t worry about whose name you wear
When you’re young worry about your name
God to Abraham, I will make your name great
Yeah, I will make your name great. There is an old person down inside of you
That’s depending on you to be smart
It’s the person you’re gonna be 30 40 years from now
Do not disappoint that person by being foolish through the strongest years of your life
And then when your back is out of your leaves are swollen you can’t move around now
You’re out there gonna get your grind on now
You can you you you it is the message you tell yourself? I’m tired I can’t do that
I don’t feel like what we we become what we say to ourselves
You will never win the Olympics talking about all night. I don’t feel like working out today
But I feel like if I feel like it, I don’t do this because I’m not into working out
I want I want to get the trophy
I want the trophy
but I don’t want to go through what it takes to get it you devour in the morning you divide in the evening and
If you try something, and it doesn’t work, it’s okay
try something else
If my son said to me. He said daddy he said
My baby boy. He said daddy. I’m going to school. He’s finishing up a four-year degree in musical engineering
He said I think it’s the thing I want to do but he said it the banner or paper with me said but suppose
I’m not supposed to smile
Suppose, I throw everything at it, and it’s really not the thing and I leaned back over the table
And I said don’t worry about it son if it is not the thing it will be the thing that leads to the thing okay
Let’s go into that
What’s been um
In your life ministry or business
What’s been a thing that led to a thing?
I love the part in the book about viagra by the way. It’s in the book. You have to get the book
It’s just an example
You’re talking about coca-cola and other products that were discovered by accident
Did that sometimes in doing something that fails you lead to something that you didn’t even know that was really the whole purpose all along
absolutely alright
So give us one ten twenty examples of those in your life things that you accidentally succeeded in
Every everything in my life
I stumbled into is that right I stumbled into I’d never thought I would be producing films
My wife and I started out doing gospel plays and going on tour during gospel place we had no
Intention that we were going to ever do movies
We were trying to do plays and trying to figure out how to do that right and losing and losing money
it went to Atlanta and and just lost our shirts for the first play and
And in the process of stumbling around we finally figured out how to get the play kind of going
Then I met this dude that I said, let’s collaborate and do it together and Madhu was a publicist my mom
Tyler Perry yeah
I heard about it somewhere. Yeah, yeah
Tyler Perry was fresh out of sleeping in his car right, and I was fresh out of money
And so we got together and collaborated and did a play called woman are loose and
When we toured the country during one on our loose?
And then we went to LA and did it and a guy named Reuben cannon was a naughty
She’d never know who’s in your Audis footnote to preacher speaker singers anybody on the stage
Never adjust your performance to the crowd
Because you’d never know who’s in the crowd
You never know always respect your audience with your best performance
I don’t care if it’s three people one of those people might change the trajectory of your life
So Reuben cannon was in the crowd and he saw the play and he said I want to make it a movie
He said I want to make it a movie. I didn’t have bare mind it had my movie money
Movie and money both start with the M for a reason you can say when you have one you got to have the other
But he said something to me that becomes the way
Business people think they don’t fail to do something because they don’t have the money
He says we’ll raise some money
Let’s do the movie listening to different attitude. I can’t do it cuz I don’t have the money. He doesn’t see money as an issue
If you see it as an issue it’ll be a stop sign
He says, we’ll raise some money so Cedric the Entertainer
And I can’t remember who all over put some money and in different people cuz the money and it because he knew them
Relationships are your greatest resource
People who don’t like money don’t like resources because everything that’s not ever gonna come to you is gonna come to a person
That’s why you gotta. Be careful. How you treat people because it’s not
Guarantee that it’ll be somebody you like your friend. They won’t necessarily be your color, and they may not have your theology
Okay, but God may use them to bless you
You know the Ravens didn’t go to church, but they fed Elisha

So anyway, so we put the money together
We put the motor we put the money together, and we did this little low-budget film film woman Art Loosed and just sort of whim
Submitted it to the Santa Barbara Film Festival and along the festival
And all of a sudden a movie that we were gonna put on TV went to screen
You see how you’re stumbling into it
It’s it’s not always that you planned it, but if if you honor where you are with your best effort
Even if it is not it it will lead to it
So as you walk along you stumble into it. I was telling my church Sunday
If you go to my stream and straight and stream our service Sunday
You get to see a big ugly six foot two men start whimpering and lips start trembling
Got you guys right here. I had no idea when I was pastoring in Smithers
forty people
50 people
father’s, West Virginia on Easter on
Easter on
Easter forty on a piece of rock
Oh Easter, that’s gotten pregnant folks in the head members. We had about 50 people I
Wasn’t I had no idea that the potter’s house was in me
You stumble into yeah, but until you dignified the forty you don’t get the 40,000
The property today is that people are so busy going after the 40,000 that they don’t respect the 40
And if you don’t do your best with the 40 you won’t get to the 40,000 so all of my life
I stumbled into relationships and situations and circumstances
That I had no idea we’re going to happen in my life, but as you dignified the present with your attention?
And like that to be present in the moment. I like that that is so important and sometimes
I have to make myself do it because I’m such a planner. I’m so strategic
I’m really pin years ahead of where the calendar is right now. I’m waiting on to catch up I
Well, you are so strategic. That’s what blew my mind about you. I I thought you were just a cyborg
Before I met you
Do you know what I mean though? I thought you were just because of me I
Thought I thought I thought there was this force of nature
Bishop TD jakes was a force of nature and
Some little things that I’ve seen some little things that I’ve noticed. There’s a um I thought I would use a prop bring me that
Yeah, that one that one. This is from the book. I saw um
Thanks, Jonathan
See he didn’t want to come all the way up. He just stopped short bless like that. We’ll
All of sin
But I love the quote in the book you compare our vision to architecture mm-hmm
And you talk about how if you plant it with a pencil mm-hmm, you can weld it with steel mm-hmm
and that’s what surprised me about you because
You’re so gifted
There’s there’s no denying that when I saw
The systems the structures the thought process that goes behind who you are it almost made me depressed
Because I realized. Oh this isn’t magic
You may have stumbled into it from one perspective, but from another perspective
It was strategic stumbling at least you were trying to do something
I let me interrupt you it leaves you stumble into it
God gives you an opportunity and what you do with that opportunity is your gift to him got it
Did you understand when God gives you an opportunity instead of just jumping on the opportunity?
you’re supposed to see what it can be I
Tell them all the time you know God God never made not one table. Yeah. I love this do this. This is this is good
God never made a chair in all of his years of being God. He’s never made a chair. He’s never made a table
he just made a tree and
The rest of it was up to us, right?
When God has you a tree imagine a table a chair?
Imagine a wall and a room imagine a log-cabin
Imagine what it can be?
Imagine what it could be?
Imagine what it could be?
of mercy
If he hands you a child imagine what it can be if he hands you a spouse imagine what he can be
Your church is Rowdy they shout and stuff, okay. I didn’t know that I was out
What did you think we did over here?
This is Elevation Church
To see him at university city look at university city
So I’m in South Africa, and I’m on a safari and I’m
Really like tripping out for this safari, and I’m out here with all of these big animals and stuff
And I noticed the elephant is wound around the elephant is strong and he’s big and it’s tough and its powers and its weight
They throw its weight around he throws his weight around what can you do with him because he’s so big
God made him big as a defense
the lion roars
when he roars
Everybody is almost paralyzed in fear
Because God gave him his roar as his defense the cheetah says I can’t roar like that but I can run like the wind
The cheetah food he goes running through the woods because God laid him able to run because that’s his defense
The Eagle spreads his wings and soars into the air and says I can’t run, but I can fly
God let dingo be able to fly because it was his defense
and i’m walking around in the jungle and I said when lord I can’t fly like the eagle I
Can’t run like the cheetah. I can’t roar like the land, and I can’t throw my weight around like the elephant
What did you give man as his defense in the whole ecosystem of?
Human of life force. What did you give me?
He said I gave you a brain
Your brain is your defense
That’s why God didn’t make chairs
He only brings it halfway, and then lets you imagine
Collaboration develop you have to say well, I’m saying
The problem with church people is that we are taught that God makes furniture
So we pray and pray and pray and pray
Don’t do that like trees
Want you to look around your life for trees
Not tables
God’s gonna bring it within the reach of your mind and your creativity is gonna
Take it the rest of the way, and it’s gonna turn into apps and it’s confirmed in the Apple phones
And it’s gonna turn the computers Cisco turn into satellite systems in the heavens look at what all we were able to do lo other
put no other creature
No other species and send satellites up into the air created smartphones look at what we did
You know my neighborhood got the song
You know that the young people used to sing it stayed about, but they say shake your moneymaker yeah
and they go to a
Torch in you know yeah. Yeah, I
Ain’t go, so yeah. I got a couple bowls like I say, but hey
They they go to Turkey and I told my church the next time you hear that song play your moneymaker
Don’t say nothing down here
Take this with me
As a man thinketh
Is he when?
You start talking about the keiko strategic that I am God gives me raw elements, and I stared them I?
Stared what I’ve been given like I stare at attacks mm-hmm. I preached the way
I do not because of what I know about the text how long I stare at the text. I just stare at it
It’s tearing it
It’s tearing it. I look at my life. I look at my wife. I look at my kids. I look at my age
I look at my stage. I look at my influence and I stare at it and
What it could be and I build my strategy from my stare
Okay, I don’t have time to be gazing of what you’re doing
God wish if I can help you you know, I will but I’m not over in your business
I’m never gonna be over your business cuz every time you turn around. I’m staring at mine
For this season for this stage for this age in my life, what can I do with what I have left?
Your miracle is never in what you lost it is always in what you have left
If you’re down to a handful of meal that’s all you need if you’re down to two fish and five loaves of bread
That’s all you need and
So when you start looking at what you have left stop grieving over what you lost?
Because if you leave it at you or the lasted
It might only be a part of all, but if it’s less the miracles always in what’s left so
What can you imagine with that that woman that powder all would have never done anything if you didn’t pour it
It would pour as long as there was
capacity to receive
So when you start talking about being strategic and this is gonna?
Help you a whole lot for me once. I envision where I’m going then I can tell what I don’t need
Talk about that you see
If I pack to go on this trip
based on where I was going I
checked the weather I
Looked at the places. I was going to speak and everything that I thought I would need for where I was going
I put it in the bag and
Anything I didn’t pack no swimming trunks
Because I figured I wouldn’t don’t need them. Why do I load down my bag with things? I don’t need
okay, I
Want I want to?
circumspectly with great precision
Tailored my life down to the things that are necessary to get me where I’m trying to go
Steven Mansfield who is the CEO of Southern Methodist hospitals this chain of hospitals throughout, Texas a
multi-billion dollar corporation
Healthcare is a business
He also was the former president of the Dallas Regional Chamber of Commerce and as he moved out of office
I was there incidentally
I am the first clergy to ever be on the Executive Board of the Dallas Chamber of Commerce and
there I am on the Executive Board they control all the wealth that comes in and out of our city and all the planning and
All the preparations to be able to move the city of Dallas forward there
I am in a room full of CEOs and executives, and I’m listening at them talk and I’m staring
I’m staying I could tell a great preacher sitting in a crowd by how he stares while I’m preaching
It’s all of a stair brother
I’m steering and Stephen says something he says
He said all of our CEOs know it is not where we’re trying to go that it’s the problem
you can get great consensus from all of your staff on the gold and
We spent all of our time talking about the goal of where we’re trying to go. He said that all of you CEOs know
That’s not the problem. It is not where we’re trying to go that it’s the problem it is
What are you willing to leave behind to get there?
When he said that I ripped out my phone like I had the costume and I was I had both thumbs
I very seldom use both times I had both from I was just a pecking at a pecking little bit is what?
Are you willing to leave bad if you’re gonna soar?
yeah, if you’re gonna soar you have to break a law to soar the
Law is the law of gravity
The Wright brothers had to figure this out
That every time they tried to go up as occlude was right something kept pulling them down
There are people in this room that every time they go after their dream something keeps pulling them down
They want to open up a not for profit. They want to open up a healthcare
They want to open up a home for unwed mothers. There’s some lovely good things. It’s not about being rich. It’s about purpose
That they’re trying to do, but every time they try to do it that something keeps pulling them down
There is a law that always wants to pull you down to where you came from
Yeah, you came from the dirt, and where you came from will always call you back
You have to escape the gravitational pull of where you came from
And in order to do that you have to break through into a higher law
the higher law is the law of
Aerodynamics, but you have to break into it and why not leave the force for the reason
I need the runway to get my engines ramped up
It’s because when I come up against it
And this is where young people make a mistake they underestimate the pull to fall backwards
They saw planes take off and they said I can do that
but they underestimate how much force it takes to break through the
Gravitational pull that brings you back down so when they fall back down
They give up on themselves, and they stop believing themselves whereas if you would just go faster at it
And go harder at it. You break through the line of random P
so Halloween
you know
Everybody has something that’s fun to pull you back to where you came
Yeah, yeah
And so when the Wright brothers built the plane in the book is built around the Wright brothers when the Wright brothers built the plane
They built it in Dayton, Ohio, and they built it in a bag?
There’s three old ladies over the corner there’s a babe hey Susan I didn’t see about uh
They were in Dayton, Ohio and
They figured out they built the first plane in a bicycle shop
They couldn’t say to themselves well
When I get what I need I’m gonna build a plane. We don’t have a manufacturer
We don’t have any backing we don’t have any money and by the way we don’t even have a degree
But none of that stopped them from building I wrote this book to people who don’t have what they need
Okay, I didn’t really write the book – big time entrepreneurs cuz all of those books you’re talking about I
Wrote this book to people with big dreams and little resources
So bill your plane from a bicycle shop, and then they got it all built up in Dayton
And then they figured out something and I could fight things I do in the book I cite examples of things that I did
That succeeded or fell off of this next thing
they said
We have to move to Kitty Hawk, North Carolina
There were two reasons one if it came back down it would fall in the brush, and the landing would be better and
The second reason was the wind was right?
There are times you can do the right thing in the wrong wind
Some of the things I’ve tried didn’t work because I didn’t study the trend I studied the plane
But I didn’t study study the trend and the wind that’s necessary success has a lot to do with
If Carlos Sanders came along today and started KFC today. He’d go broke
Because today, we’re all worried about you know carbs and fat grams and all I’m a
We read little labels and all of their stuff, but he started his business at the time that women had just gone to work and
Families were used to home-cooked meals
His business solved the problem
The stats say that people who go on the business because they want money are apt to go out of business 80% of the time
people who go in the business who are
Successful don’t want the business based on their needs they go on the business based on their customers need
If your business or church or ministry
solves a problem it requires less marketing
You don’t have to talk me into wanting something I need
But when I don’t need it you got to spend a whole lot of money talking me into subject
So you want your business to be a solution in fact?
You want your life to be a solution?
Nobody sends for a problem. They only send for an answer
If you’re feeling lonely, and you’re feeling rejected figure out how you can be an answer to somebody’s problem, and they’ll always invite you
Because people invite answers they’ve repelled problems so when you come in the room giving problems
It is the most unsexy thing you can ever do in the world. It’s true
Somebody far less cute can get much further than you because they don’t moan and groan in the brain
Really when people ask you how you’re doing. They don’t really want an answer
We’re not serious
Don’t say that well
I’m doing fairly well
But the Lea is hurting and my back is good having some time to time and when it rains my eye
Starts twitching I got a little pain going all right here. It’s driving me absolutely crazy, and I just don’t know what the world
I’m gonna do cuz I got a thumb nail world over here. Just say
That’s why I didn’t wear the shoes. I want to wear with this
Bring solutions bring
Saline solution bring solutions as a person bring solutions as a business bring solutions as a ministry and you will always soar
When’s the first time you saw yourself as a solution I?
Wrote one an hour loose and I didn’t even know how to write
2020 somewhere in my twenties
late twenties I
Wrote the book in a PC Study Bible no pain
Because I didn’t know what a word processor was
So this there was a friend of mine named sir, Clifford
Fraser who we were just getting into computers and stuff us old guys was getting 28, Oh guys. We just getting into it and
And he said why did you write all of this in a notepad?
He said it’d be so much better if you wrote it in a word processor. I said what’s that? I?
had written almost the whole book
in the notepad of a PC Study Bible
So it wasn’t that I was proficient
It was that I had heard the cry of
women who were hurting
sexually and emotionally
Abuse who were hidden in our churches at that time and the church was ran by men who were deaf
To the cry of the women and when I heard their cry I thought that there were biblical solutions
sociological and emotional issues and
So I started trying to get him answer out and when I started teaching it
it was a Sunday School class and
More and more women came and more and more women came I didn’t know what’s gonna be a movement
I didn’t know it was gonna be a book
I did it first as a Sunday School class, and then I call Archie Denis, and I thought Archie
I’m teaching this class and people are going crazy over it. I mean my church is fact that I just got like maybe 150 people
150 people meant some people were outside
That’s my bicycle shop
Never laugh at my best to the shop this fast not the day of small beginnings
great things come out of small places a
Woman Art Loosed came out of that best at the shop, okay
Psycho aren’t you mad aren’t you said you should bring it – you should bring it to Pittsburgh?
You know he had this big rich voice aren’t you Dennis used to sing from Billy Graham and more Sorrell?
Oh, and all those people you’re despicable ooby’s face vegan – hits bag
And so he announced that I was gonna bring it to Pittsburgh
No, no
He said see she says I’m gonna have you in Pittsburgh, and he says what do you call me, and I thought I don’t know
I’m on the phone with him. This is exactly the way it happened. I said, I don’t know I
Guess I’ll call a woman our losses for the Bible said I’ve called a woman our atlas
He said okay, so he announced that I was gonna teach woman
I lose like that and so many women came they had to move it out of the church into the hotel
so I took the CDs from the
from the Sunday School class and put it with thee they were the cat sets at the time and put it with the cats as
Near the house and put it with the cats from Pittsburgh, and I had a to tape series
And when I got ready to do the book I
Can find a publisher that would do it?
I finally found a publisher that would take my tapes in and and transcribe it into a book
But when I saw what they did with with my answer. I got mad
Because it wasn’t in my spirit
They were saying what women ought to do is such a sense of what women are there. I went that was not my spirit
so I on a desperation to protect the integrity of my spirit I
started pecking
And pecking and pecking and pecking and nobody would publish what I was packing
So I told my wife see I’m talking about things that would stop you okay?
Nobody wants to publish it the first person who did it did it wrong
And it round got all of this all of this stuff crammed in the species Study Bible
and I’m trying to pull it out and put it in a word machine and
And and I told my wife I said nobody wants to publish it and if I publish it myself they want
$15,000 all the money. I had in the world
We were saving that money to get our first house we didn’t even own our house
And I was trying to get us a house
And I said Sarita I said I want to publish this book
It’s coming that I have to drain our savings to do it
She said that’s okay
And so she agreed and we took the 15 thousand and we published the book
And we got five thousand copies
And I sold out in two weeks
I think I’m finally a suit though. I needed one
The lining had come out of my suit cuz she was washing it in the washing machine
Because we couldn’t afford to go to the cleaners
So I didn’t buy me a suit with it. I took the money and put it back in the business and
published another fax I
Had no idea that that book would end up selling over five million copies
Translated into ten different
He’d known to this day around the world in places. I have never been and it all started in my little bicycle shop
So when I talk to you about the Wright brothers soaring and catching the right wing I’m talking to you about things
I love that happen in my own life. I never let not having enough stop me from getting up
When you mentioned it’s not where you want to go, it’s what you give up to get there
What have you given up to get where you are that people in the room might be surprised to know?
It reminds me of a statement that somebody asked Kathryn Kuhlman do y’all know who Kathryn Kuhlman in
Kathryn Kuhlman was a woman preacher when women preachers weren’t cool
And she was preaching in California to some people who still are cool
And she was preaching in California and preaching for Full Gospel businessman Association. She was traumatic oh
my god
Come on it’s the romantic side of me, I do movies, so you don’t know what do you say so uh?
They asked her how much did it cost to be who she was and she laughed she said simply everything darling
Simply everything that was so true when you started talking about
Was walking through the airport when my ministry first started to explode I was so
Distracted by the explosion that I didn’t see the damage
An old preacher was coming through the airport an inch in Charlotte. Yeah, it’s just not available to Charlie is just there
When you live in West Virginia if you wanted to go to heaven you there to go through, Pittsburgh or Charlotte
I was at the Charlotte Airport and a bit so official walked up to me, and he looked at me. She said he said oh
He said you’ve lost something
He said
You’ve lost something that you’ll never be able to regain I said I said he said normalcy
It took me about five years to unpack that simple conversation
That you become a target by people who have never met you
That they would say the most hideous things about you
That your children would suffer from the things they wrote about you trying to get
their points up in their their Nielsen ratings up that they would eat you for dinner and
Saved the story until sweeps month and drop it because you had a big audience
so that they could get big ratings and that my kids would have to grow up in the middle of all of that I
Was distracted by the explosion
But I would come to see the damage I would see it in the tears of my children the pregnancy of my daughter
the pains of my son
Holding my wife in tears
And I would hold her in tears and preach faith
and go home and lay down in a bed of fear I
Said God where have you taken me? I’m taking this war costume, and I’ll throw it in free tonight tonight
I’ma tell y’all nobody else can hear this just hush. I’ll be y’all go keep it me. He almost quit
I’m a country boy. I’m from West Virginia. I don’t know nothing about this big-time stuff I
just I never even asked to be big I
Wanted to be effective not famous
Famous is the consequences of being effective
And I didn’t know nothing about being famous, and I didn’t like it and so there. I was and when you first knew
Everybody attacks you first and figures you out later
Because though we say you’re innocent until proven guilty the reality is you’re really guilty till proven innocent II
I didn’t know that being M. I was young up starting you have to understand that you looking at 60 year old man
But you’re talking about something that’s happening to a guy in his late 20s
in little kids and
the first time I was in The Washington Post
The article was so vicious. It made me nauseous
Was so shocked that you could say that stuff about somebody you didn’t even know based on
Assumptions and a little bit of this and a little bit of that big piece it all together
And you don’t get the same thing back
So I decided I don’t want this I
was preaching from pastor Bishop Valley leaders
And I was nobody Miller because preachers can override their feelings and function
I had preached these places on fire, but inside. I want to quit I
Told God I’m through with this. I’m not going through this. I don’t need this. I don’t see I don’t need that
I’m a guy who likes to go get his own chicken wings
I don’t have to have all of that stuff to be happy because I was raised with it
I can make it you throw me an apartment right and Jimmy just says a little skill of a cast-iron skillet
You know what I’m talking about
It’s a visa South
So I’m not doing this no more. I’m not doing it. I’m not doing this
I’m not doing this cuz I don’t need this and I didn’t ask for this
I’m only doing this because of what happened in my life of the circumstances happening in my life
He put me on stage. I didn’t ask for it and when I saw how much it costs
I thought you have that right back here you have that right back up in here
I don’t need it, so I was mad inside. I was hurt and
I stayed up in the fellowship with the pastors because I didn’t want to go back to my room and sulk in my own sorrows
And they said there’s a lady downstairs waiting to see you the service was over and the fellowship was over the pastor’s starting to leave
I was trying out waiter I
Thought she’d give up and leave
And when I finally came down the steps
she was there, and she was just a will and wee bit of a woman and
She said Bishop Jake’s
She said I’ve been in the hospital
she said I
Was pregnant in my fallopian tubes?
And the baby died in my tubes and I was carrying around a dead
Baby, and the toxicity from the baby almost killed me
And she said the only thing that
Kept me alive was
Hear you preach
She said if you hadn’t been preaching to me every day I
Swear, I was bad
And then she looked at me. She said it’s for us
It’s not for them
It’s for us
It had me so hard I
Didn’t even get her name I
Kind of a car and crying. I’ll be back to my room because she’s remanded me why I was there
I just left
Last week when I text you I was up in Baltimore in DC
And I was doing a book signing and this one we came up to the table to Mysore
she said you don’t remember me to you I
Said no she didn’t even look like to say first. She’s all dressed up it gained weight
She said I would say she said I met you in the bottom Madonna means Church
years ago, and I burst into tears I
Lost it. I stopped the sign, and I jumped up another if it were not for that woman
When you talk about what it costs I’m good my southern stuff Matt yeah
Simply everything
What being a public figure does to you everybody has an opinion about everything what you wear?
Whether you shave your hair or not what you look like you gain weight. You’re fat. I mean they say anything to you
And what has to happen to survive it you have to get tougher?
Not leaner
Tougher tougher what’s the difference mean?
It’s when you lash back in because in a fight like that if God would turn me loose
I could hold my own I could hold my own in a street fight
Have to delete it cuz I swear I
Could put a little paint off the wall, but you don’t believe
You should release a book things. I almost tweeted
But when I say tougher your resilience and your resistance to the irrelevance of
Things that have nothing to do with your destiny our
distraction yeah
So move you away from where God has placed you
and you can’t be I did when I do a pastors conference and I still Q&A because I like to do clear night cuz I
Like to talk to you
And then they start asking me questions and stuff generally somewhere along the nights of my school come up
Just tell me about your schwitters somebody who’s saying something bad somebody who hurt him like that, but when I’m talking to CEOs
Incredibly successful people when I’m talking the presidents and Kings
From around the world I’ve sat across from and talked to when I get a chance to be in the room with
Executives and corporate executives and stars who name if I would listen here everybody would know them
They’re never talking about what people said
Because they have developed the toughness that
Is necessary to survive can I say one more thing real quick from say you say here a lot of more things see
I took my son up to
the Rock of Gibraltar
my baby boy was with me and
His mom and I took him to the Rock of Gibraltar because we were on our way to
Africa and we stopped over in Spain went to the Rock of Gibraltar and
The guide took us up to the top of the Rock of Gibraltar for all the battles were fought and all of the
enclave’s are filled with a
outpost where you could defend the southernmost tip of Spain before he faces the northern tip of Africa and
There as we went up spiraling up to the top of the mountain the higher you went
Or monkeys, and they were jumping all over the cars and everything and the guide said to us. He said you know in certain seasons
It gets so cold up here that when the monkeys first migrated up here in the winter
their tails would freeze off
That’s how cold it was he said, but eventually when they started birthing their babies they were born without tails
Because they had adapted to their environment
That’s what I mean about toughness
If you are exposed to it long enough
You’ll freeze your tail off
It’s amazing
Tweet that everybody
So I got blessed as sore throats my tail off
But if you to those of you
however you define
soaring and success
Successor you might be raising two great kids
Successful you might be open on the up a spa
Successful you might be opening up a home fun with mothers or it might be a corporate office on Wall Street
If you don’t freeze your tail off
You won’t be able to expand what success costs
You have to free
Your tail off
And I can tell that a lot of people are not ready CeCe when I first start writing this book. I thought I was writing
That entrepreneurship was about a business and a company and an address in a location
And getting a building or facility or starting and Ecore from your laptop or something like that
But when I got to write in it while I was right there not when I started I was right
I realized it was a mindset
It’s a mindset, it’s it’s it’s it’s it’s the way you think about things. That’s it’s it’s taking controlling your destiny
See if I come to work for you, and I would if I come and work for you. You bought it. Oh. Yeah, I
Can teach your son?
Yeah, let you have the problem
You can decide what you’re gonna pay me as an employer to an employee
But you can’t decide how much I’m gonna make
We have turned our income over into the hands of somebody who has no vision for our need
You can pay me whatever you think I’m whatever you think the job is worth
But you can’t pay me what I’m worth. You can’t afford me, so
I can have only these multiple streams of income to subsidize your limitations, right?
because if I if I have an entrepreneurial spirit
I am NOT limited like an eaglet – waiting for the mother bird to drop food in my mouth
being an
Entrepreneur means that I have lifted up into the air and found my own wings
You know I’m so glad you said that because I don’t think you’re talking about claiming our rights as much as taking
responsibility for our own lives yes
This is exactly how we talk on the phone
Most the time it sticks, and he will take something that makes me get corporate tunnels
Trying to take back to me cuz it’ll be just long
Exhausting book then I’ve got to send back to this answer because he he thinks so deep
You can tell how deep a person thinks about how they talk he thinks so deep in this and so you’re just over here just
eavesdropping tonight on a conversation we would have whether you were there or not do you like
It’s about taking control of outcomes it’s about not allowing your destiny to be controlled by your circumstance or your situation
it’s about getting a vision for where you want to be as your life with your family with your children and
Setting a goal and dropping off things that are not relevant to where you and trying to go
So that you can focus on. What is necessary?
So that you can have some spoils to divide so that you can send your kids to a college
So that you can figure out where you want to live when you’re old and how you want to die
This is not about diamonds and gold and Rolls Royces
Unless that’s what your vision is this is about choosing where you want to go if it’s a cottage in the hills of West
Virginia in a log cabin and you want to die with chickens in your backyard. That’s your business
It’s all I see it’s your business. It’s a business. It’s your thing do what you wanna do
Okay, so so when you now
preachers start talking about anything other than preaching
religious people just
You know, but let me tell you something the reason I must do this
Because I serve our people who have a prayer list full of things that God doesn’t do
Half of the things they’re asking God to do his tables and chairs, and he does trees
If if they could catch what I’m talking about we could go to praying about stuff that really matters
Yeah about the kingdoms of this world becoming the kingdoms of our God another’s Christ we can start praying about North Korea
And what’s going on over there in the middle Z. We can start praying about things
that would change the world about cleaning up the air and
Cleaning up the water and leaving this planet better than we found it we can start praying about things that will change the world
the way we interact with people we can start praying about things that brought black out of people’s lawns and
Delivered them and set them free
– recall skate
I’m trying to play it about with and house payments and car payments and school meals and college tuition
Doesn’t do that you do that
Red’s awareness time to soar
It’s time to show
Believe I can touch the sky, Oh sweetie think about it every night and day spread
My wings and fly away
We’re gonna give trouble how to leave a can
Couple to go overboard
You got an open door and having arrived
Do you really
They’re absolutely the most time ago
Yeah, well I was gonna say, I don’t know I don’t know what your schedule is like
I don’t want you to become an entrepreneur by accident by staying too late missing work, and then needing to start your own company
But but no I feel like
one thing I really wanted to make sure that you that you talked about is the cost of hesitation because
This is a this is a very tactical book. Oh, you’re saying
We won’t be much longer and we want to thank again
Everybody who’s online and want to encourage everybody to get the book because I think you’d be surprised how
you know Bishop Jake’s is a ninja and so it’s from laughing about Oreos and I
Even brought some Oreos yeah, because there’s
When you win
But you know there’s there’s the example of
Innovation you talk about them. I love this line innovation isn’t just changing the flavor. It’s changing the form
Whatever, that’s so good
Just say stuff like that like that would take me 30 more years to think of that line, and it’s just as whoa
But-but-but what I wanted to mention is these are so many tools?
It’s very tactical on one level very inspirational a lot of great inspiring prose and then get into some things that
Will really help you to do it in real life, and not just you know yeah, I was thinking Jonas plans
I wanted to get into
Grants and foundations and concepts and real meaty stuff that I don’t get to get into and suddenly it’s all in here yes
It’s in there. It’s in the because because because this is something that we do in church that I think is dangerous
We inspire people right?
Every Sunday morning trying to we inspire them everything I see you doing don’t front it with a lot of it
But if we inspire people we don’t inform them for Monday
Then they’ll just come on Sunday to get high
Okay, and I thought
On me a way
To get beyond preaching everything’s gonna be alright. It’s gonna be alright
Every Sunday, it’s gonna be alright. It’s gonna be alright, and show you how to make it alright
Show you how to make it alright. Yeah, you talked about the cost of hesitation you
Can’t understand hesitation if you don’t understand rhythm I
Thought I never thought I was gonna be a preacher. I was gonna be a musician. I started playing the piano
It’s hard for us to believe that you never thought you’d be if I did and then one time you said that you didn’t ever
Felt like you were a good preacher
Lord no that’s why I preached so hard cuz I didn’t think I was very good. I said well at least be our
That made me cry when I heard you say that by the way I feel who are gifted cannot see
See I can see him I can see you I can see the lights I can see the carpet
I can see the table I can see the world the only thing I cannot see in the room is me
And when you are gifted you are when you are truly gifted you are blind to yourself
So it makes you ask questions like who do men say that I am
You’re vulnerable to the voices around you you have to be careful who you have around you because you
You can walk off the stage and want to slit your wrists because you can’t see whether you had any effect at all
that’s the truth and be careful who you have around you because they reflect they become a mirror and
If the person around you has an agenda they’ll distort the image of who you are anyway
So I was thinking you know
This this watching at home, it’s turning
Around and around the time
It’s imitating the solar system because everything is turning we don’t feel it, but the earth is turning
It’s moving around
The Sun is fluid everything’s moving
Everything is moving when I went to the Wailing Wall
In Jerusalem the rabbi’s stood at the Wailing Wall, and they were rocking back and forth
Because they understood that in order to reach God. It’s a symbol of understanding
Movement that that blood is moving through my body while I’m sitting here. It’s moving. It’s moving
It’s moving if I have an emergency
they feel my
Pulse of pulses a rhythm a rhythm a rhythm everything is a beat as a rhythm as a rhythm and the rhythm who
Determines days and evenings and seasons and Suns. It’s a rhythm. It’s a rhythm
It’s a rhythm everything is a rhythm and when Christ came he came in rhythm and the fullness of time
In the fullness of time he comes in a rhythm everything is done in a rhythm so God says the day you hear my voice
Do it in the rhythm heart not your heart?
Because there is no guarantee that you can do later what you can do today
You got to do it in a rhythm you got to do it in a rhythm when you hesitate
You break the rhythm
It’s the same thing that a nurse is feeling for when she grabs your wrist, she’s checking the rhythm
The rhythm is a sign of your health
It’s the rhythm is off the heart is off
If the heart is off beat bad enough they have to do something to it to get it back to its rhythm
Because it being out of rhythm affects everything else in the body
If we didn’t have our children when we had our children at the time we had our children
We would have broke the rhythm everything has to be done in a rhythm
Business has to be done in a rhythm a woman’s body operates in a rhythm
Before we had all of this fancy stuff people controlled Chalmers by rhythms and cycles and systems
And that’s why the woman is so akin to the heart of God
because she has cycles and
Cycles are systems and cycles reflect the universe and God is a God of rhythm and everything so when God said let there be
everything start beating and beating and beating in a rhythm
God has got a rhythm, and if you’re gonna walk with God you have to get rhythm and when you hesitate you break the rhythm
What I’m saying
There is nothing worse than dancing with somebody who don’t have rhythm
There’s nothing worth. It makes you wanna back off the stage
What about my says it looks like they’re dancin to the words?
Not the beat
Ha ha ha the beat the beat to beat the beat the beat the beat the beat
The beat the beat the beat so Pete – Pete
– Pete – Pete
– Pete
Pete Pete
You break
the rhythm and
What would have flowed?
Is now off?
The enemy comes to break the rhythm
So when you talk about hesitation you’re really talking about Satan
Because he’s a rhythm breaker
He can’t stop God from gifting you
Calling you
Blessing you he cannot
He cannot even curse you because God has blessed you
The only way he can sabotage you is to get you to
Break the rhythm
When you do break the rhythm you have to repent
You have to repent not just because of sin you have to repent because you miss the rhythm to do the right thing
I’ll show it to you this way. Yeah, Samuel lays down on the bed and
he says and
His voice say Samuel and he gets up and runs to Eli he said did you call me Eli says I called Li
Not lay down and give me ladies time again
Samuel he goes Eli didn’t call it
The third time Eli perceived
That the Lord has called
He has missed the rhythm
three times
He says, but this time when you lay down say to him God
If you call me again, I’m ready
Somebody in here you’ve missed the rhythm
There are some things that should have happened five years ten years three years six months ago
Do you hear what I’m saying to you, but all hope is not lost
Go back it laid out again
And say if you called me again
If you just give me one more chance I
Will go to slash. I will go to Eli I won’t go to humanity
I will go to my fear or my doubts or my shame if you just called me again. Give me one more chance
this time Lord
There is a timing factor on
Everything and every time we break a rhythm it has consequences
Can I show you one thing is it kind of shocking but imma fill it out here?
God did not intend for us to reproduce in our old age
Because he wanted us to be here long enough to take care of them so when God gets ready to shut down the factory
He’s shutting down the factory so that the child will not be uncovered
Now through medicine we have jimmied the lock and broke the rhythm
So that you can be an 80 year old man and have a 2 year old son
Now you might have a lot of fun, but it breaking the rhythm the son pays the consequence
Because by the time he figures out what to ask you
That’s the problem with rhythm it’s not just about you
Everything else is dependent on the beats
Everything around you is affected by the beat and even though you can create things that will break the rhythm for your own pleasure
In so doing you run the risk of creating someone else’s calamity
Because the rhythm was developed so that everything starts at a certain time
Everything goes down at a certain time because God is not just looking at you. He’s it’s for us
It’s for us when God gives you your next opportunity
If the woman with the issue of blood had hesitated she would have bled to death
Because Jesus was not coming to her. He was passing by
Rhythm rhythm rhythm rhythm rhythm, and she says if I could just catch the beat
If I could just stop weak, but if I could just if I could just kiss the beat
It’s gonna take all of my strength to get there
But I gotta catch you cuz he’s not breaking his rhythm he’s not breaking his rhythm he’s still moving
I got to catch his rhythm so she had to crawl to catch his rhythm she said
But if I can just catch his rhythm the miracle is in the rhythm
And so she had to crawl it about says she pressed her way and the way she did even got up to speed and said
She kept encouraging herself if I could just touch
If I could just touch if I could just touch this rhythm I’ll be made whole by Bartimaeus was sitting by the holiday side
Baby, let me stop
There is one thing I know we’re running out of time, but I want they said no no I
Was on a flight they got stuck on the runway
And I tell you
We said on the runway so long
That it took all the scriptures I could think of
Not I tried to talk to myself
I said you were sitting at the house, and then you got in the car. You were sitting in the car
And they drove me to the airport, and he was sitting in the airport
And now he’s sitting on the plane. Why are you so irritated?
You’re gonna sit anyway
And I said when you if the plane were to take off he’ll be sitting and when you landed
You’d go get in the car
So you can sit and you get me kind of sitting the car
So you go to the hotel and sit so what are you mad about I?
Think my frustration was I was sitting in a place of movement
The agony of life
Is to sit in a place
you spoke a hesitation, but the word that leaped in my spirit that I wanted to leave with you is frustration I
Think that there are people in this room. Yeah, who are frustrated yeah?
And you try to make yourself feel content, and you feel guilty that you’re not content
And you say that I ought to be thankful for what I have
And like me you’re trying to use rationale to
Put up with the situation that
You’re not called to and
What keeps needling you is I?
belong I belong up there
And yet, I’m stuck right
And there you are in a place of movement watching other people take off
And wondered what in the world is wrong
And you ring the bell and say what excuse me
We’ve been sitting we are the peanuts
They don’t have no more Diet Coke in it the potato chips are stale. Can we go?
That frustration is God nudging you
That he has placed you in a position of movement, and if you are not moving something is broken
And I want you to understand this there are people
Who stay on the ground and they’re happy to be there?
Because they never imagined themselves in the air
But you are not one of them
You go
To the airport with people who love you
But when you get to the checkout point they can’t go beyond it because if you don’t have a ticket you can’t go beyond that
Some folks you have to leave behind that you love
Because they have not paid the price to go to the next dimension
Yunso mercy
Don’t you get on the one-way now and get stuck on the runway and tell yourself
It’s all right. It’s not all right
Because you belong in the air whatever there. He is
And I
Want it to right you know when you get about my age you get all?
nostalgic and stuff and you want to leave something behind that matters I
Didn’t want to be one of those people who flew and never taught flight
Most of the people I’ve seen who ever did anything never told anybody how they did it and
I thought I said I got here by God’s grace. I promised him everything you teach me. I’ll teach you
Everything he showed me. I’ll show it
Everything I learned I’ll pass on to somebody else
There’s somebody
Watching on the campus or streaming or sitting in the balcony or sitting out here in front of me right now
You got a dream
You got a vision I
Won’t like to ISKCON cost you everything
You all hurt in places. You didn’t know you could hurt and you have a thousand chances to give up, but don’t do it
Keep on moving I tried to leave some tips about who you need around you
so that you can pick your associates more carefully because it does have something to do with your success I
Tried to speak to your need to have a rhythm
So that you cannot lounge around here and let this moment pass you by
You are not as young as you think you are
You don’t have as long as you think you have it takes longer to settle something big than you think
You thinking in days I’m talking in decades
You don’t have many
If you don’t do it now
She’ll never do because you may not ever see that cycle
Come back again the only reason Saul wanted to kill David
Is that he was mad because he missed his turn
Touch everybody you can reach and tell them do not miss your turn
Vista PD Jake’s everybody
Your job be the one phrases
When you go to work, or you go home?
Or you go in the mall or you go someplace
And you run into somebody who heard this so read the book or you follow the study guide
Incidentally sounded Spanish as well and you run into another Eagle somewhere at the checkout counter
Just look at him go
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